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Obama Coverup, Affiliation With Known Terrorists Questions Candidate’s Ideology

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During the Democratic primaries, Hillary Clinton became aware of an association between a known terrorist, Bill Ayers, and Senator Barrack Obama.  She stated that this association could be used by the Republican party to discredit Obama if he became the Democratic nominee for President. As more news on this relationship comes to light, it appears she may well have been correct.

Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, were known terrorists for a group called the Weather Underground. Ayers claims to have set bombs at the US Capitol and the group was involved in the bombing of government buildings in the 60s and 70s.   Among those bombings was an attack on the Pentagon in 1972. Ayers has been repeatedly unrepentant about the attacks.  In 2001, this article appeared with Ayers standing on the American Flag as it lies in the dirt.

There are reasons to be concerned, primarily because Obama has made sincere efforts to conceal or downgrade his relationship with Ayers.  Obama, when asked about his relationship with Ayers in one of the debates during the Democratic Primary responded,

“This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.”

Obama left it at that, but as it turns out, that was hardly the entire story.  We find it amazing that Obama could brush off bombing of the US Capitol and the Pentagon so lightly!!! And this was much more than a casual acquaintance between the two, according to this article in the Wall Street Journal,

“From 1995 to 1999, he (Obama) led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.”

This demonstrates a  5 year relationship between Obama and Ayers, who was one of the original grantees of the CAC and was co-chairman of the Chicago School Reform Collaborative, one of the two operational arms of the CAC.”

Obama obviously had not been forthcoming in the debate and has not answered to his affiliations to Ayers, and, according to this article, looks to be attempting to cover up that relationship.

Andrew McCarthy, former federal prosecutor that led the investigation into the 1993 World Trade Center bombing when asked about Ayers had this to say, “Of all the people that have ever bombed the Pentagon, the State Department and a New York City Police Department headquarters, I am certain he is one of the best”.

We are disturbed with these allegations and would like a clear explanation from Senator Obama regarding his affiliation with CAC.  We do not wish to have the President of our nation, especially after 9/11, affiliated in any way with terrorists.  Such a tie would be a disgrace to America and endorse terrorist activities world-wide.

Beyond the implied associations with terrorism, it also brings into question Obama’s ideology.  Certainly such an affiliation implies Obama’s leanings are much more radical than they would otherwise appear.


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87 Responses for “Obama Coverup, Affiliation With Known Terrorists Questions Candidate’s Ideology”

  1. T. Davis (1 comments) says:

    @motherlylove – When you get a chance, read Roger Simons article entitled “ReIentess, How Barack Obama Outsmarted Hillary Clinton.” I don’t expect for you to read anything that will cast a doubt on Hillary Clinton, but I thought I would at least give you a point of reference. If by chance you do read the article, you will may come to the same conclusion I did. Obama did not outsmart Hillary, she outsmarted herself, and quite frankly did not run a good campaign. I to was a Hillary supporter, unfortunately she lost. I am now supporting Sen. Obama, because I refuse to vote against my interest, and while I didn’t vote for G.W. Bush, most Americans now realize that they did vote against there interest. In all honesty, I think it is going to happen again. Hillary did not loose because of Obama’s negative campaigning, she lost because of arrogance, entitlement, and underestimating the mood of the people of this country. Sen. Obama knew who he was running against and Hillary did not, that is why she did not have a plan “B”. If you have really been paying attention, you would notice that any negative campaigning from the Obama camp, have been counter attacks from those who saw him gaining momentum,

  2. AOF (2 comments) says:

    You know, some of you guys are no better than Osama since you want to mention him. You have been terrorist of black people all of our lives. What is the difference in someone bombing the camptal and someone bombing a church and killing 4 innocent little girls. We are terrorized everyday. We cannot get good jobs, because we are not white enough; we cannot get a better education because we are not allowed the same opportunities; our grandparents and their grandparents were injured with firehoses and police dogs; Remember Emmett Till who was brutally murdered at age 14 by some white men who you would refer to them today as terrorists and the the list goes on and on. We have voted for white men all of our lives and despite what has happened to us and our grandparents, we voted without any conviction. It is sad. I am self-employed, have an Associate Degree, Bachelor’s Degree and a few months away from receiving a Master’s Degree, but I can bet you that a white person that is less qualified with work eperience and education would be able to get a job before I will. Now, put yourself in my shoes and see if you feel the same way. God said if you judge a person then you shall be judged. So, if you judge Obama because of his association of anybody, God will judge you also.

  3. Jeff in WV (1 comments) says:

    Bill Ayers paid his debt to society.
    John McCain did not pay a debt to society for the Keating 5 debacle. Oh, yes, he was cleared of the charges by the Senate Ethics Committee. The Senate Ethics Committee also cleared Sen. Larry Craig for soliciting sex in the airport men’s room. And he was caught with his pants down!
    Tell the GOP to try the next smear against Obama…. this one ain’t working.

  4. AOF (2 comments) says:

    What if I felt like all white people were KKK just because their fore fathers were and we associated “all” white people that way, I guess that would be different. Sarah Palin’s husband was a part of a group that no longer wanted to be a part of the United States, but just because she is sooooo perfect in the eyesight of some of the people, her faults are overlooked. Oh, I forgot, we (black people) are still considered as second class citizens. It is sad and I am tired of it. That is what make people angry like that and it is not against the U.S., but it is against people like the people who continue to try and cut down Obama’s character by anybody that he associate’s himself with. So what he knows this guy, or Rev. Wright, it does not make him what they are. If I sit in my garage, it wouldn’t make me a car. It is 2008 and we are still no further along in America as African Americans than we were 40 years ago. It’s sad.

  5. evilrepublican (33 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By ChurchladyAyers in his old days was pretty despicable, but he’s a professor of Ed now and fairly mainstream.

    So you feel he reformed nicely after bombing the Pentagon, Capitol, New York City Police Headquarters and not only openly admitted it, but said in 2001 he wished he had done more. And I suppose had he killed your son or daughter in that bombing, you would think he was swell.

    Originally Posted By ChurchladyWhat is amusing about this is that the people pointing fingers are supposed Christians who theoretically believe in ‘redemption’.

    Even if you understood what redemption was, you would realize that for it to occur you need repentance. Ayers said openly he does not regret his actions, even though they could have killed or injured hundreds, that he wishes he had done more and that he would do it again. Maybe we should elect him President.

    Originally Posted By ChurchladyIt’s quite clear that Ayers is no terrorist and that Obama’s association is pretty thin.

    Yup, Ayers only set off several bombs in or near US office buildings that could have killed people, and Obama only worked with him for five years or so. Putting it all in perspective, that was only about the time McCain was in a prison camp for defending your freakin’ country.

    Originally Posted By ChurchladyOn the other hand, Gov. Palin made a video supporting the Alaska Independence Party in which her husband has been a longtime member and that supported her for Governor.

    And you compare that to blowing up government buildings? You do know the other bloke that attacked the Pentagon don’t you. It rhymes with Osama.

    The rest of your logic is so twisted that I think if Obama were Osama you would vote for him. There are no glass houses here, just your severe lack of brain cells. No other President in history has been affiliated with known terrorists and elected. This guy didn’t have strong ideals and beliefs, he blew US buildings up. He is a criminal that managed to escape on a technicality, then admitted his crimes. Had that technicality not occurred, he would have received life in prison, not a doctorate. Only in America could liberals identify with such a man.

  6. motherlylove (24 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By XtaziaI just wanted to say that this article was supposed to be anti Obama but after reading everything on this page and watching the O’reilly clip, I just have soooooooooo much more respect for Obama then I had 5 minutes ago. Just watching that clip and seeing how intelligent Obama is and how dumb Bill is makes you realize more and more that Democrats care about the welfare of american people and repubs just care about themselves. These republicans that I am introduced to by the media seem very ‘snake’ like and the venomn is just drooling down their chin.

    Really, you dismiss a relationship with known terrorists less than ten years ago because you don’t like Bill O’Reilly? And that makes you generically classify all people of each party in your nice little bigoted box? Seems to me, if you are reading the HuffingtonPost, you have found plenty of venom there, and it isn’t Republican venom.

  7. Churchlady (1 comments) says:

    Ayers in his old days was pretty despicable, but he’s a professor of Ed now and fairly mainstream. What is amusing about this is that the people pointing fingers are supposed Christians who theoretically believe in ‘redemption’. Unless it suits them NOT to. It’s quite clear that Ayers is no terrorist and that Obama’s association is pretty thin. On the other hand, Gov. Palin made a video supporting the Alaska Independence Party in which her husband has been a longtime member and that supported her for Governor, albeit cautioning her to run as a Republican so she would indeed be selected as Governor. AIP”s founder actively expressed hate for the US saying he had no use for America, only Alaska. Members of AIP have been to secessionist meeting in the Lower 48 where they’ve rubbed elbows with some pretty nasty people. This AIP association is as recent as last year for Gov. Palin. Also John McCain sat on the board of an organization of VERY right wing folks ALL of whom were extremists and with whom he was long associated since the organization itself is very extremist.

    So – that glass houses thing rears its ugly head. The association with known extremists seems to stick more firmly to Palin and McCain than to Obama.

  8. Xtazia (1 comments) says:

    I just wanted to say that this article was supposed to be anti Obama but after reading everything on this page and watching the O’reilly clip, I just have soooooooooo much more respect for Obama then I had 5 minutes ago. Just watching that clip and seeing how intelligent Obama is and how dumb Bill is makes you realize more and more that Democrats care about the welfare of american people and repubs just care about themselves. These republicans that I am introduced to by the media seem very ‘snake’ like and the venomn is just drooling down their chin.

  9. motherlylove (24 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By artemusto motherlylove: no, you’re correct. the author of the article never states “obama is a terrorist.” it is left to the reader to make that connection through the obvious implication.

    There was no implication to me other than that Obama associated with terrorists. That wasn’t an implication though, that was a fact.

    no better than the s. caroline mayor last week who asked if obama might be the antichrist. “no, I’m not saying he is, I’m just curious.” disgusting

    That is pretty far fetched. Let me make a simple analogy for you. Say Charles Manson got out of prison, and for several years you hung out with him or worked with him. It would not make you a crazed psycho killer, but it would say a bunch about with whom you choose to associate.

    pls. be aware, although obama himself has chosen to remain above the fray, don’t think for a second that palin/mccain’s extensively seedy histories won’t both be further aired out. you’re setting the ground rules, and hey, it’s only parity

    I am not sure what fray you think he is above. He has been running a negative campaign from the word go. Did it to Hillary too, who was the first to call him on his relationships with terrorists. It is one reason I voted for Hillary.

    I don’t think it should be ignored, and if it is going to bring Obama down, I would hope it would be soon enough so that Hillary can take his place.

  10. artemus (2 comments) says:

    to motherlylove: no, you’re correct. the author of the article never states “obama is a terrorist.” it is left to the reader to make that connection through the obvious implication.

    no better than the s. caroline mayor last week who asked if obama might be the antichrist. “no, I’m not saying he is, I’m just curious.” disgusting

    pls. be aware, although obama himself has chosen to remain above the fray, don’t think for a second that palin/mccain’s extensively seedy histories won’t both be further aired out. you’re setting the ground rules, and hey, it’s only parity

  11. realitytv (117 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By PaganPopulist
    @realitytv

    McCain a hero? Being a crappy pilot (5 planes) doesnt make you a hero.

    Being a POW does not make you a hero, you can become a hero if you actively resist.

    You sound like a sad petty person. Are you saying a POW isn’t a hero unless they escaped or were killed? I suppose the physical torture he received was voluntarily inflicted. Please, you are a childish fool.

    Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket.

    The U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

    All you have are your dishonorable discharge papers.

    @PaganPopulist -

  12. artemus (2 comments) says:

    so why not cut to the chase? are you calling obama a terrorist? if so, you better have more proof than a few tenuous, glancing associations between obama and ayers. are they plotting something? is that your implication? have you trained your incisive eye to palin/mccain yet, or are they getting a pass because they’re
    oh, I don’t know, white?

    also, I guess mccain napalming women and children in the name of the same gov’t ayers was fighting against is “ideologically” distinct? your desperation is beginning to show, though the stench of it has been evident for weeks

  13. Dee (3 comments) says:

    Don’t worry about the polls! Everyone get out and Vote! Vote early! Don’t wait until the last minute! Make voice heard!

  14. PaganPopulist (1 comments) says:

    @realitytv

    McCain a hero? Being a crappy pilot (5 planes) doesnt make you a hero.

    Being a POW does not make you a hero, you can become a hero if you actively resist.

  15. motherlylove (24 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By trueblueWhat are you saying ,that Obama is a terrorist because he sat on a board with ,an american,Ayers few years ago who happened to bomb somewhere in america 40 years ago when he Barack was 8 years o ?
    RIDICULOUS!!!

    No, the article never said that. It said Obama associated with terrorists, not that he is a terrorist. Where did you see that? The bombings occurred when Obama was 8 years old, but he did have a business relationship with Ayers operating a very radical organization that ended less than 8 years ago. That was cited in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. Hillary even pointed it out. That is one reason I voted for Hillary.

    Originally Posted By trueblueWhat are you saying, that all the teachers at the university where Ayers teaches are terrorists.because they associated with him.
    RIDICULOUS!!!

    No, I don’t read that anywhere. It says Ayers is a terrorist. Ayers admits he was a terrorist and admits he bombed the Pentagon, a New York Police Headquarters, The Capitol, etc. and stated as recently as 2001 that he wished he had bombed more. He was very lucky people did not die in his acts.

    As Hillary stated, Ayers and Obama were much more than casual acquaintances.

    Originally Posted By trueblueAll the parents and the students. that associate with him are terrorist
    Stupid

    None of that was ever said. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

  16. trueblue (1 comments) says:

    What are you saying ,that Obama is a terrorist because he sat on a board with ,an american,Ayers few years ago who happened to bomb somewhere in america 40 years ago when he Barack was 8 years o ?
    RIDICULOUS!!!

    What are you saying, that all the teachers at the university where Ayers teaches are terrorists.because they associated with him.
    RIDICULOUS!!!

    All the parents and the students. that associate with him are terrorist
    Stupid

    What would you call the church members of the church that the BTK murderer attended and even held high office in.
    They associate with him.
    Are they all must be murderers too.

    ch

  17. evilrepublican (33 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By licnycThis is all lies and has been debunked over and over again.

    Where, pray tell, was any of this debunked? The article they submitted has references from reputable news outlets proving Obama’s ties to these terrorists.

    Let’s ask you a question, would you be dismissive of a relationship that McCain had with the KKK 10 years ago just because McCain told you it wasn’t so?

    If you have any articles that refute anything that was said in the article, I for one would like to see them, because from what I see it is all 100% true and accurate. Obama affiliates with terrorists and, as little as ten years ago, was one of the chief operators of a majorly radical organization.

    No wonder why he and his pastor say “God Damn America” in their prayers.

  18. licnyc (1 comments) says:

    This is all lies and has been debunked over and over again. Ayers lives in the same neighborhood as Obama and they at one time worked together. Obama never endorsed the man, never hired him himself and wants nothing to do with this guy. There is absolutely no proof to anything of the contrary. By this logic the entire staff of the university of Illinois are terrorist. Its grasping at straws and more pathetic lies from people who have proven time and time again- they are liars.

    If you vote for the best liar, we’ll get stuck with more fame FEMA news conferences, more sketchy intelligence reports, more senate inquiries that take time and resources. Maybe its time we stop listening and electing liars.

  19. evilrepublican (33 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By Jewkie@evilrepublican

    Yes – I was there – I was alive. I remember the tumultuous time that was the sixties. You talk about government intrusion! Back then – from the Nixon’s administration (“the law and order president”) to local police departments – Americans who were against the Viet Nam War, or liked to smoke pot had their houses broken into, beaten at rallies, investigated by the FBI. Ever heard of Nixon’s enemies list? Paul Newman was on it. The Weather Underground were dangerous, youthful radicals – I don’t justify them or violence of any kind – but look at the federal and local governments – they were just as radical and had the overwhelming power of police repression and violence.

    You were where? You didn’t even know who Palin was you dork. She never supported bombing of anything you dweeb. There are Americans against every war, so you figure that all soldiers are criminals? Try that argument in a Veterans party and see how long you live.

    You are electing a man that has known affiliations with people that bombed Washington because they did not believe in the government’s policies. Sound exactly like Obama? You endorse him as well? Obama Osama Obama Osama Obama Osama. I get it now. You are for all terrorists. You want radical terrorists running our nation.

    Now be honest, do you write for the HuffingtonPost?

  20. Jewkie (2 comments) says:

    @evilrepublican

    Yes – I was there – I was alive. I remember the tumultuous time that was the sixties. You talk about government intrusion! Back then – from the Nixon’s administration (“the law and order president”) to local police departments – Americans who were against the Viet Nam War, or liked to smoke pot had their houses broken into, beaten at rallies, investigated by the FBI. Ever heard of Nixon’s enemies list? Paul Newman was on it. The Weather Underground were dangerous, youthful radicals – I don’t justify them or violence of any kind – but look at the federal and local governments – they were just as radical and had the overwhelming power of police repression and violence.

  21. evilrepublican (33 comments) says:

    Doug, you are one twisted individual. First, our soldiers go to war to defend our country. Are you voting for Obama because you think he will not send people to war? Are you really that stupid? McCain did not choose to be a POW in Vietnam and was a hero, something cowards like you will never understand.

    As far as your implied affiliations, they are idiotic. This guy that Obama hung out with and did business with BOMBED THE FREAKIN PENTAGON, just like OSAMA. You can’t be so stupid as to associate the Bush family with Bin Laden, can you? C’mon dude, get a grip on what few brain cells you have left.

  22. Doug (1 comments) says:

    “Know of any presidents this closely tied to terrorists? We sure don’t, and we don’t want this one to be. ”

    How about the last four? The Bush family’s ties to Bin Laden, Clinton and the bombing of the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant, The Reagan Doctrine, McCain himself was an unjust combatant in an unjust war.

    I know you’ll speedily point out that these acts of terrorism were not excuted against the United States and are therefore permissible because our country is the center of the world and our interests outweight the whole of the rest of humanity. You might, actually, be wrong about that.

    This line of attack will work very well with people who already weren’t going to vote for Obama, (Hello, undereducated white males!) and most everone else will see it for what it is: a desperate, talking points attack from a couple of mavericks who believe in the literal truth of the bible and want to repeal women’s rights (or, at least make them pay for thier own rape kits). As you pointed out, the Ayers thing has been in the open for some time, if it is of such importance, why are we only discussing it now? Why hasn’t this been the main attacking point of McCain’s campaign?

    The article you cite points out that Obama and Ayers did nothing more than serve on a board together that (gasp!) raised money for radical education activists. Is it wrong the Ayers planted bombs? Of course. But the fact that you describe Ayers as standing on an american flag that is lying in the dirt shows that you are appealing to little more than mindless populism and a kind of ideology that disdains thoughtful inquiry, is incapable of considering words like “progressive” and “radical” and “liberal” as anything but perjoratives, and casts outright hostility to intellegent thought as patriotism.

  23. evilrepublican (33 comments) says:

    Jewkie, are you daft? Do you have any proof at all of anything you say or do all liberals think they get carte blanche on lies.

    Obama is affiliated with terrorists that bombed the Pentagon. Sound familiar to Osama? Does to me.

  24. Jewkie (2 comments) says:

    William Ayers and the Weather Underground were angry radicals rallying against the intrusion of big government. I’m surprised Sarah Palin and the right wing conservative base don’t love him. They’ve supported people who tried to blow up family planning clinics

  25. evilrepublican (33 comments) says:

    I find this incredibly disturbing. First he slips and says he is a Muslim. Now he is connected with terrorists, and not by Sarah Palin, but by Hillary Clinton from his own party?

    Obama is clearly not what he presents on television. He is a radical and needs to be stopped.

  26. realitytv (117 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By mishi
    Well, y’know, people change over the course of four decdes. Back when Ayers was in the Weather Underground, McCain was, to all reports, a decent, honorable man,

    Hysterical comment. So, let’s let every murderer in prison for life from 40 years ago free. McCain has always been a decent honorable man. Several years ago, Obama was in severe question.

    McCain is a hero. That’s that.

  27. mishi (1 comments) says:

    Well, y’know, people change over the course of four decdes. Back when Ayers was in the Weather Underground, McCain was, to all reports, a decent, honorable man,

  28. realitytv (117 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By Veronica
    If we sit around waiting for a candidate that has absolutly no connection with any controversial person, a lot of could-be great presidents will never be. So Obama served on a board with this man and did business with Rezko, from what I’ve read neither Rezko nor Ayers have benefitted in any way. And “radical education”, examples please.
    Whats sad is that McCain has nothing positive left to say abouit himself, that his strengths are no longer enough, so he has to try and bring down Obama with smears and negarivity.

    Sadly off the mark. Obama has connections with a terrorist that admits he bombed the Pentagon. Worked with the guy for 5 years. Dealt out funds to radical organizations. Whether Ayers or Rezko benefited is the key for you?

    OK, so, say McCain had affiliations with the KKK 10 years ago, but no one at the KKK benefitted. Would you dismiss them?

    Please. You are two faced. You say McCain has nothing positive left to say. Obama and the Huffington have been smearing McCain for months. It is about time he smeared Obama.

  29. Veronica (1 comments) says:

    If we sit around waiting for a candidate that has absolutly no connection with any controversial person, a lot of could-be great presidents will never be. So Obama served on a board with this man and did business with Rezko, from what I’ve read neither Rezko nor Ayers have benefitted in any way. And “radical education”, examples please.
    Whats sad is that McCain has nothing positive left to say abouit himself, that his strengths are no longer enough, so he has to try and bring down Obama with smears and negarivity.

  30. realitytv (117 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By allison
    @realitytv – Wrong. Obama did not work in a radical organization with Ayers. He was a child when Ayers was involved in that. They both sat on a board that distributied $50million in funds from the Annenburg Foundation to Chicago schools. They were in a couple of meetings together with other people from the board of directors.

    They were business associates in CAC. Read the Wall Street Journal article we reference. If you would like to write an article of your own, submit it, with proper research we would be happy to publish it. In the meantime, this story is dead on right. Obama not only associated with a terrorist but filtered money for radical causes, demonstrating a much more leftist bent than he implies he has. Would you be as forgiving if you found out McCain hung out with the Ku Klux Klan?

    As far as your reference to a huffingtonpost article, we do not give any huffingtonpost article any weight as evidence of anything. It is a liberal rag that makes up stuff as they go along. The NYT also had an article showing the relationship.

    Now, go write an article and submit it. If it is decently written, we will publish it.

  31. allison (1 comments) says:

    @realitytv – Wrong. Obama did not work in a radical organization with Ayers. He was a child when Ayers was involved in that. They both sat on a board that distributied $50million in funds from the Annenburg Foundation to Chicago schools. They were in a couple of meetings together with other people from the board of directors.

    This claim about this association has be debunked by many, many journalists. See the receent AP article and the NYT article. They both make it clear that Obama has never hung out with Ayers. Dozens of people who knew them and worked them during that time have confirmed that they never spent any personal time together or worked on any projects other than the distribution of moneys to schools that were in desperate need.

    If you want to go down the guilt by association path your candidates both have problems. McCain was taking family vacation trips with Charles Keating and protecting him from federal investigation while he conspired to cheat thousands out of the money and help to set up the other cataclysmic bank failure of our time, that required many billions of federal dollars and set us up for a recession.

    Then there’s McCain’s own radical ’60s friend: David Ishkin. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/mccains-own-60s-radical-p_b_132032.html) Extremist Ishkin was denouncing America while McCain was a POW. He was the leader of his college campus takeover. Very vocally anti-American. But McCain boasted of his friendship with him until recently.

    With both Ayers and Ishkin, the reality is that the 1960s were a very frightening time full of extreme radicalism. It was explosive. And these people were young. As they grew into their late 20s they matured and calmed down and saw that there were better ways to effect positive change in America. They have both been actively positive citizens since then. I suppose you could live in a world where we are never allowed to grow and mature and contribute to society once we have strayed, but that would be mighty small citizenry you’d have left.. And lacking in warmth, love and humanity. If I were McCain, I’d be telling everybody to back off this track. His association is much deeper than Obama’s and he’s the one who will get run over.

    And his Keating five relationship is dangerous. He has continued to this day to pursue policies that protect and encourage Keating-type bankers and investors. The types that we end up bailing out.

  32. realitytv (117 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By SpoxLogic
    @realitytv -
    Wait a minute. If Ayers is NOW a terrorist – why isn’t he in jail? I’m still confused about that. Either arrest the man, since he IS a terrorist – or just shut up already!

    You have heard of the statute of limitations haven’t you? Read up on it, we don’t have time to educate every amateur liberal about the law.

    As far as its being 40 years ago, so you are saying that if you found out that 40 years ago, McCain worked with the Ku Klux Klan, you would be cool with it? How about 30 years from now? It would be cool by then for the President to hang out with Bin Ladin and do business with him? Maybe they could pair up and rebuild the Trade Towers?

    You are one twisted bloke.

  33. SpoxLogic (1 comments) says:

    @realitytv
    Wait a minute. If Ayers is NOW a terrorist – why isn’t he in jail? I’m still confused about that. Either arrest the man, since he IS a terrorist – or just shut up already!

    And if you say that he WAS a terrorist back almos tforty years ago, then Obama was only a kid then. So what kind of association would a 8 year old kid have with a terrorist back in 1970? If you still can’t come up with a good answer – then please stop spreading crap across the Internet.

  34. Tina Perkins (1 comments) says:

    Gimme a break.

    I’ve work with a neighbor who was at My Lai.

    The only thing that makes me is someone who can work with people who did something I didn’t to work on a current problem.

    This Ayers thing would be a joke if it were not so pathetic.

  35. realitytv (117 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By Mike
    This IS a longshot, and I’m not a liberal by any means. I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 …

    A longshot? He had a working relationship with a terrorist bomber for five years!! He wasn’t 8 then. There are many other connections in the articles we reference. The proof of the relationship is cited in the Wall Street Journal. It isn’t a long shot, it is fact. And Obama is covering it up.

  36. TequilaMockingbird (5 comments) says:

    I find this type of Guilt by Association Game completely Ironic in that unwittingly hilarious Black Humor sort of manner.

    So here we have Obama serving on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) with Ayers.. A College Professor/70′s Radical who apparently confessed (without the use of waterboarding) to bombings to which he was never convicted nor served Jail Time either stateside or in Gitmo …. and We are supposed to Be What? Horrified? What should I do? Vote for McCain?

    You know what horrified me? When I learned that George W. Bush’s father was meeting with Shafig bin Laden, in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, Washington, on the morning of 9/11. Just a few miles from where a plane was flown into the Pentagon reportedly at the behest of his brother Osama bin Laden.

    Of course the Carlyle Group associations with the Bush Family were Glossed Over/Summarily Ignored by the Media even the Media outlets with the Liberal Bias.. As were the Planes that took to the air (when no other planes were allowed to leave the ground) to spirit the Bin Laden’s family to safety before they could even be interviewed by Law Enforcement. The official response was something like… “Oh they haven’t seen Ol’ Osama in years.. he’s the black sheep, blah blah blah, it’s all legitimate business interests with his brother who isn’t a terrorist”.

    So Wow.. You tell me.. Was I comforted by that Explanation or was I just Naive? To bad Bill O’ wasn’t there to ‘pin’ it down for me.

  37. realitytv (117 comments) says:

    Originally Posted By ccrane
    Did you not read your own sources? Obama did not claim to have ‘last associated with Ayers 40 years ago’. He stated correctly that Ayers committed terrible acts 40 years ago. At the time Obama was a child. Years later Obama served on a charity board with the same man, who he knew as a college professor. If this is the best you people can do to discredit a candidate, you haven’t got much hope, my friend.

    Sorry you didn’t read the story or the references, try again. Clue, one is a video, you can’t read those.

    Initially, Obama made reference that Ayers only committed despicable acts 40 years ago in the Democratic primary debate and he was just some guy from his neighborhood. That was his quote from the debates and that was all he disclosed until he was pinned down by O’Reilly. He then admitted he knew him and worked in an organization with him (a radical organization funding rebellion against the US). Our big interest is the relationship with CAC.

    We know a lot of people, but no bombers that bombed the Pentagon and certainly we know of no president that worked in a radical revolutionary organization alongside terrorists. Are you that naive? Wow.

    Know of any presidents this closely tied to terrorists? We sure don’t, and we don’t want this one to be.

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